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The number of coronavirus cases is rising fast in Brazil. It has more than 125,000 confirmed cases and more than 8,500 deaths.
And yet, President Jair Bolsonaro is railing against measures imposed by individual states to close businesses, schools and public spaces. He argues that only vulnerable groups should be quarantined and that the rest of Brazil needs to get back to work.
But with cases increasing sharply - and fears that minimal testing in the country could be masking much higher figures - there is growing concern the president is not taking the threat seriously enough.
João Doria is the governor of São Paulo, Brazil's wealthiest state. A former ally of Mr Bolsonaro, he is now one of his biggest critics.
Mr Doria imposed a state-wide quarantine in São Paulo but data suggests only 47% of residents are abiding by it. The BBC’s South America correspondent Katy Watson asked Mr Doria what the biggest risk was in Brazil - social unrest from too much quarantine or the threat of spiralling deaths.